Charles Ramsey gave Anderson Cooper another memorable interview on CNN last night -- and said that he's no hero in the case of the Cleveland kidnapping.
Ramsey described freeing the women from his neighbor's house, where they had been captive, raped and impregnated for years. Unusual circumstances and Ramsey's willingness to help, even though he knew kidnapper Ariel Castro, set Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight free after a decade.
But he said he's not a hero.
"No, no, no. Bro, I'm a Christian, an American, and just like you. We bleed same blood, put our pants on the same way. It's just that you got to put that... being a coward -- that 'I don't want to get in nobody's business' -- you got to put that away for a minute."
Ramsey intervened in what he admitted he thought at first was a "domestic dispute." Ramsey said in an earlier interview, "I knew something was wrong when a little, pretty, white girl ran into a black man's arms. Something is wrong here. Dead giveaway."
Some critics worry he is just another in a long trend of "funny black neighbors" in local news interviews, and that his actual heroism is being overshadowed. Ramsey went one further and told Cooper he's not interested in any reward for his actions.
"I tell you what you do, give [the reward] to them. Because if folks been following this case since last night, you been following me since last night, you know I got a job anyway. Just went picked it up, paycheck. [...] So yes, take that reward and give it to -- that little girl."
The restaurant dishwasher told Cooper that until he discovered the women, the only thing he ever lost sleep over was a "lack of money." But now he just loses sleep knowing what was happening next door. "I could have done this last year, not this hero stuff," said Ramsey. "Just do the right thing."
He added that if he had found out what his neighbors were up to under other circumstances, he might be facing "triple life."